About Createx 4012-08 Thinner

[CY343491]

Hi, Anyone ever used this product on Tamiya or Vallejo?

 

[urumomo]

Contains butoxyethanol .
Should definitely be fine with Tamiya ,
I added some to a couple different Vallejo Model Color to check compatibility and no see ill effects with the resin .

 

[urumomo]

That is the " 4012 High Performance Reducer " .
IDK if " 4012-08 " is something different

 

[CY343491]

Thanks, you find SDS ?

 

[urumomo]

I have a few bottles of it .

SDS :
Water ,
butoxyethanol as the solvent ( a glycol ether )
and they decided screw propylene glycol , suck on that toxic ethylene glycol :
https://dixieart.com/SDS SHEETS/4012 HIGH PERFORMANCE REDUCER SDS.pdf

 

[CY343491]

That is the " 4012 High Performance Reducer " .
IDK if " 4012-08 " is something different

I've searched through local seller's website and saw some different bottle sizes, they've named it with bottle sizes, "-08" means it's 8 ounces. There are two options for 4012 which are "4012-04" and "4012-08" in our local seller but when i look Amazon UK there are many options.

 

[urumomo]

Yeah , I figured it was something like that

 

[CY343491]

I have a few bottles of it .

SDS :
Water ,
butoxyethanol as the solvent ( a glycol ether )
and they decided screw propylene glycol , suck on that toxic ethylene glycol :
https://dixieart.com/SDS SHEETS/4012 HIGH PERFORMANCE REDUCER SDS.pdf

Ever used with Tamiya acrylic? Is it comparable with X-20A?

 

[urumomo]

I don't have any Tamiya paints .

 

[CY343491]

Ok, i've ordered 4 oz. bottle just to try, when it come i'll spray and share results.

 

[urumomo]

It's compatible with the Tamiya acrylics .

 

[CY343491]

I see that price is nearly as same as X-20A and i have SDS, i'll try to brew it. I've searched "2-Butoxyethanol" but can't find, is there an another name for this substance? What is butyl glycol, is it relevant?

 

[urumomo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2-Butoxyethanol

Other names
2-Butoxyethanol
Butyl cellosolve
Butyl glycol
Butyl monoether glycol
EGBE (ethylene glycol monobutyl ether)
Dowanol EB
Eastman EB solvent
2-BE
EGMBE
Butyl oxitol
Ektasolve EB
Jeffersol EB

 

[CY343491]

Really thanks, easy and cheap to brew, thats been great for me. What if i want to exaggerate to lower production price and use windshield washer instead of ethylene glycol, as it's only %0,1?

 

[urumomo]

The propylene or ethylene glycol is added for dry-tip .
It might not even be needed , but either will work .
You should acquire it by itself and avoid windshield wiper fluid since who knows what's in it .

 

[CY343491]

The propylene or ethylene glycol is added for dry-tip .
It might not even be needed , but either will work .
You should acquire it by itself and avoid windshield wiper fluid since who knows what's in it .

Can glycerine used instead of ethylene glycol? Or a drop retarder and flow improver will increase performance? By the way do you think that this thinner will work with craft paints?

 

[urumomo]

yes
yes
and yes

now eat your vegetables

 

[CY343491]

Which option do you suggest, glycerine or retarder & flow improver combination?

 

[urumomo]

what exactly is the " retarder & flow improver " ?

 

[CY343491]

what exactly is the " retarder & flow improver " ?

What do you mean by that? i'm not talking about a special stuff, it's the stuff that we know. I have both Vallejo and Winsor & Newton branded products.