Duel tiger 1 builds starting with Andy's 1/16.
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Those are great shots!
What kind of lighting was in tanks anyhow?
I haven't built enough vehicle interiors to know, or to have noticed.
What kind of lighting was in tanks anyhow?
I haven't built enough vehicle interiors to know, or to have noticed.
kevin
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German WWII tanks had interior lighting. My 1/16 Tiger II and Panzer IV had molded electrical lines and fixtures on the interior of the turret roof. You can get aftermarket light fixtures from AFV Modeler, to replace the kit versions... but I didn't go that far down the rabbit hole.
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That is going to be nice. The amount of super detailing you can do? You could stretch that out and build up that thing for a year
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Ooh, tiger for tea!
Looking very insect like without bogies or tracks...
How do you know which hatches to leave interior colour versus exterior?
Paint coverage so even... At this scale I'd be hosed painting with a brush!
Also interesting to see just how crisp the edges are, versus the rounded edges of a Sherman, for instance.
Looking very insect like without bogies or tracks...
How do you know which hatches to leave interior colour versus exterior?
Paint coverage so even... At this scale I'd be hosed painting with a brush!
Also interesting to see just how crisp the edges are, versus the rounded edges of a Sherman, for instance.
The hatch's are sorta like this that bottom hatch would never be open except to load up the tank...
The other hatch's are usually interior color, but you will drive a lot with hatch's open so all the vehicles in my old unit those were painted outdoor colors and not interior colors. Nothing worse than a blob of white when you wanna stay hidden lol. I would be surprised if they did not do that in WW2... I be damn if I'm driving around with hatch's open and white ha.
That took a lot of paint! Feel like I been painting all day even with airbrush. That took a good amount of effort.
Yeah I have two Shermans to do eventually. I will get there. I am looking forward getting to those. I'm sort of on this WW2 type kick I guess right now.
That's right...
Like painting 4.785 tigers at 1/35! (Don't quote me on that)
No wonder you're tired!
Went through 17 ml bottle of paint so far just on exterior...That's right...
Like painting 4.785 tigers at 1/35! (Don't quote me on that)
No wonder you're tired!
So.. I know these tanks did not have in the field to much stowage but because I can open all the hatch's, have a complete (somewhat) turret interior I want to have some stowage ...
Here is what I came up with... Thoughts???
They are loading up tank and getting ready to move out ...
Second pick could be crate with main gun rounds??
Here is what I came up with... Thoughts???
They are loading up tank and getting ready to move out ...
Second pick could be crate with main gun rounds??
Some of these might already be there, or came with the kit.
Did the crew just carry side arms?
Fire extinguisher? Mess kits? First Aid?
Charts/maps?
Did the crew just carry side arms?
Fire extinguisher? Mess kits? First Aid?
Charts/maps?
Some carried or would have mp40s I believe...
canteens were actually attached to the interior walls of turret as well. So those would need refilled so on.
Signal flare gun to signal was common
S mines for dispensers
I have a rolled map in one of those crates as well... As machine gun ammo boxes.. if I include the big crate for main gun ammo have that as well.
That's a good one... sounds like you've got a lot covered!
Jakko
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TBH, all of it seems unlikely on a tank, even when the crew is supposed to be stowing the vehicle. Especially the machine-gun ammo boxes: in vehicles, MG ammo was stowed in canvas bags with a metal lid, not belt boxes:
These attached to the machine-gun mounting in a clever way so that when reloading, the new bag pushed the empty one to the side where it would then collect spent casings and belt lengths:
(Though in this photo the feed tab on the belt hangs next to the empty bag, of course.)
The stick grenades would also be dubious. They take up a lot of room, and AFAIK the grenades issued for vehicles were mostly or exclusively egg grenades:
Note there that the ring is not for pulling It's there to allow carrying the grenade more easily. The detonator is the knob on the right: unscrew that, sharply pull it out to activate the fuze and then throw before the delay is up (with a yellow knob, as here, that's 7.5 seconds).
These attached to the machine-gun mounting in a clever way so that when reloading, the new bag pushed the empty one to the side where it would then collect spent casings and belt lengths:
(Though in this photo the feed tab on the belt hangs next to the empty bag, of course.)
The stick grenades would also be dubious. They take up a lot of room, and AFAIK the grenades issued for vehicles were mostly or exclusively egg grenades:
Note there that the ring is not for pulling
It's there to allow carrying the grenade more easily. The detonator is the knob on the right: unscrew that, sharply pull it out to activate the fuze and then throw before the delay is up (with a yellow knob, as here, that's 7.5 seconds).
Jakko
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TBH, I don't think any of it is really suitable 
A large part of that is because nearly all of it's in boxes, which makes little sense to me: why would anybody store a jerrycan in a wooden box with some other stuff?
A large part of that is because nearly all of it's in boxes, which makes little sense to me: why would anybody store a jerrycan in a wooden box with some other stuff?
Interesting... this whole topic of tank stowage could have its own thread. Kinda thought you'd have some good suggestions!
Yeah IDK why they did that but can use elsewhere..TBH, I don't think any of it is really suitable
The tiger is pretty different from other tanks in that it did not carry external storage hardly ever, oil and gas drums most common seen.
Part of reason is it's design. To the rear are all the vents and filter system and really can't put anything over those. On the deck there is no space where something would not interfere with main gun. On the front lower deck section almost anything would interfere with vision block or front machine gun.
What is left is main turret that depending on version has stuff on sides already and if you put much there it can snag on top part of main deck.
That just leaves the top or the storage container to the rear. Most goas there or in tank, it might have some on top of turret but I have never seen a picture of anything on top of turret. I think standard practice was nothing on top that would obscure vision to front or sides.
3rd party stowage: either in a box, or rolled up... both make manufacturing much simpler.
I guess the best option is to raid Jakko's reference collection, or spend hours scouring every relevant photo you can find online.
Or, if you just want to add a little interest, use a few sparingly, as part of a scenario:
When in that situation, I find it helps to have the figures you're going to include and what they're doing. Then you just need to find the props to support the scene, like in a stage play.
If I guy is reaching into a box, the internal logic of the scene might be enough to carry it off. At least, that's my theory.
kevin
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From what I've read most of the gear followed behind the advancing panzers in supply/ maintenance vehicles. About the only German vehicle I seen pictures of with alot of onboard stowage are Stugs. I did find theses though......
Nice finds. My search of WW2 Tiger resupply and maintenance turned up very little in the way of stowage. In another forum, I did find a couple of images. The concensus seems to be as Kevin, Sapper and Jakko noted.
Unless in a maintenance and supply scenario, or in transit to the front, just about nothing stowed externally.
Note the barrel strapped to the side, wouldn't have gone into battle with that. And the second photo with fuel cans and tarps.
...are those cans in a box?
Jakko
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You'd be finished fairly quickly if it's Tiger information you're after, then
Those are fairly common, but mostly in Africa where resupply could be a long way away.
No
There are seven jerrycans next to each other there, and something (some kind of box or container) in front of them.
Steve Ski
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I care not how ya do it, just keep going, it's looking great! 
Like Steve said, looking great, and in the end it is really up to you if you want historical and operational exactitude, or to add some extra interest for the model that will be sitting on your display shelf!
I'm excited to see what comes next!
