Nice! I like seeing differently flagged vehicles... I'm hoping to get in a couple of WW2 Vichy or Free French builds this year too.
1/16 m8 howitzer moter carrage
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People forget that the French received a lot of war war 2 vehicles and used them for a very long time. That particular vehicle could have literally been used for over 10 years even being handed over or tasked to Vietnamese forces at some point.
I think it's probable but this is sorta meant as a fantasy build and I'm also using it to test a few different things. Like the chipping with medium. This is the first time I have tried that. Will never do again.
To me heavy chipping doas not happen on most modern armor but ww2, Korea, Vietnam are about the only wars they would... Environments and length of wars with a lot of use allow this. As you said for most part would not be that heavy though. This vehicles circumstances though would be most likely to produce those results ... Ww2 use... Given to French... Indochina war... Given to south Vietnamese forces ... That's a pretty long road.
... not to mention super humid subtropical/tropical conditions!
What was your impression of chipping medium? I tried a little a while back, then backed off... don't exactly remember why though. These days I'm doing an layered 'all paint effect', and liking it.
What does that mean "layered all
Paint effect"? What I've taken to doing is applying my base coat, primer red or whatever is appropriate, and then lightly sanding to bring out the primer. This way I can get scuff marks too. Chipping didn't work too well for me plus I just don't see armor as being heavily weathered and certainly not rusty. Light rust is possible but I haven't seen a lot of pictures showing heavy rust. It also depends on the metals used- some will not rust. When I was a teen I worked for a family friend who told me all his Army stories and the impression I got was anytime they had "down time" they were painting- equipment, barracks, vehicles, and slow moving people. I do appreciate those that can do a realistic rust though! I've not developed that skill but also don't have much use for it- I except maybe on a jeep. I'd love to be able to rust out a jeep.
That's part of reason it is heavy.... I can see using it in particular situations but overall I won't be using it on a model like I did here again. To me it's to uncontrollable the chipping effect. I will use my normal teqnuiqe instead.
I could see it used on the roadwheels and lower running gear and being fine. Could also see it being used on knocked out or graveyard armor. Perhaps also in the situation where I'm using it here with a vehicle that's been literally passed through different services, countries so on.
One of the things about say even ww2 armor is for most part vehicles are black and white during pictures that were taken so you can't really tell how chipped a vehicle that fought say from d day invasion through to the end of war would be.
But if that was the case it should be pretty bet up that a lot of driving, fighting, driving over trees, brush, through buildings so on. Even the color photos taken during this period were at distance or recolored images for most part....
Imagine even the Korean war... All those tanks were brought in from Japan stock and were ww2 use tanks... thts alot of use.
I think it looks awesome. Historically accurate? I don't know but sometimes we get so caught up in being accurate that we forget this is also a form of art. I posted a Polish concept tank on another forum- people didn't like it much and truthfully it did not turn out like the picture in my head. It was still fun to paint it different and overall I'd give myself a B-, maybe a C+.
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Jakko
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Ah, if you mentioned that before then I must have missed it
I pretty much assumed it would be American in the Second World War. A decade after that, and with typical French maintenance, it might indeed look like this … Have you ever seen the paintwork on French houses? 
... pardon my gramma, a layered, all-paint effect.
No actual chips, just paint.
1. use a colour lighter than the top paint coat to lay out the scuff marks; from tiny to wider, and some longer like scratches.
2. use a likely primer colour/rust on some of them, kinda concentric like, so the edges still show the scuff
3. in some instances, another concentric colour, your bare metal.
I try to randomize, not all are scuffed, not all scuffs have primer, not all primered have bare metal: you can skip straight to primer or metal...
photo from my carro armato... still experimenting!
On my Cargo truck I did the rust coloured primer, and lightly scratched the surface colour in places. Also used the light scuff paint technique.
Got it and it looks good! I think that's a more realistic approach and similar to what I have been trying to achieve.
... coming back to me now, when I tried the chipping medium, I didn't like having to plan in advance where I wanted to chip. And like you said, it was hard to control...
I tried interior weathering on white at one point... not so great. You're definitely on to something!
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Very nice weathering! For the diamond plate floors, you paint green, then wash brown, then dry brush dark and then add sandy pigments?
About to button it up.... As stated before is a vehicle used through war war 2 then handed to the French who used it for the entirety of the frnh Indochina war, 10 years of straight use and multiple trips across the alt water. It is in use hence the unfill shell loadout.
Nice! Be sure to document areas that might be hard to see after it gets closed up!
Is there any way to add a wire to the radio handset? Having worked in telecom, it just feels weird
Is there any way to add a wire to the radio handset? Having worked in telecom, it just feels weird
This is phenomenal!
No unfortunately you cnt see it when closed.Nice! Be sure to document areas that might be hard to see after it gets closed up!
Is there any way to add a wire to the radio handset? Having worked in telecom, it just feels weird
Nice! That's always exciting!
