I hate you though. Asking you all these questions, I decided to get a couple of bottles from you and I tried them out and I love them.  I just went and bought more for the Fantasy Warhammer army (substituted the game colours for model colors if there were one).  I got like 23 bottles, Retarder and their matte.  I'd order form you but I kinda need the stuff fast and get painting. Only got less than two weeks now. LOL Once I complete my Vallejo take over I'll probably get rid of my Tamiya's.  Once they come in I get to toss my Citadels! *Happy Dance*  La Revolution GW!