i tried that method [USER=13239]@urumomo[/USER]  on the hull n deck of this ship thanks so much it works as you said

I also think i have solved part of the reason parts were flying.  Seems my tweezers had gotten a buildup of hard gunk on the inside where it was supposed to be flat but it was rounded over. Once i shaved the gunk off which made it flat again, these guns are going together quick n easy. 4 parts, base, supports, and two guns. That was certainly part of the issue.

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