Question of the day

[Ron2]

Years ago when I was a carpenter we had an old timer who would bring in an old tool or gadget and ask us to tell him what we thought it was or what it might be used for. It usually led to an interesting lunchtime conversation. I thought it might be interesting to start a thread with a similar theme. Anyone know what the tubes on this 109 might be? Full disclaimer: unlike the old timer I worked with I do not know for certain.

 

[Wig41]

Onboard potty ?!

 

[mcs1056]

We used to have Beech 18's and a King Air with piss tubes (funnel/tube at the Pilots seat and a tube/venturi under the belly). We'd always tell the newbies it was the ground handler comm system, and have them test it.

 

[VegasAWACER13]

Towards the end of the war the Luftwaffe experimented with putting artillery caliber weapons on fighters in desperate attempts to attack USAAF bomber formations. Many of these exotic experiments involved upwards- and rear-firing weapons. Maybe it's one of those?

 

[urumomo]

reverse image search gets you ,


True ?
one of the commenters says ,

" This contraption is examined in detail in chapter 30 of our book by Francis Marshall, 'Graf Zeppelin's Eagles' on the Bf 109T "

Real book ?

 

[urumomo]

It's probably for displaying the aircraft in flight with the gear up

 

[VegasAWACER13]

Wow. That's crazy.

 

[urumomo]

How bout these barrels ?

 

[mcs1056]

How bout these barrels ?

View attachment 179096

VW Beetle exhaust

 

[Edbert]

One of the biggest drawbacks of the 109 was the way-too-short range it had. The thought that they'd use a 109 to refuel a bomber is...not sure what word, there are many...a bad idea.

 

[urumomo]

VW Beetle exhaust

Close .
It IS German .

 

[Ron2]

We used to have Beech 18's and a King Air with piss tubes (funnel/tube at the Pilots seat and a tube/venturi under the belly). We'd always tell the newbies it was the ground handler comm system, and have them test it.

That's is too funny!

 

[Ron2]

reverse image search gets you ,


True ?
one of the commenters says ,

" This contraption is examined in detail in chapter 30 of our book by Francis Marshall, 'Graf Zeppelin's Eagles' on the Bf 109T "

Real book ?

I did find that book on the internet. It's a bit expensive $129.

 

[Ron2]

reverse image search gets you ,


True ?
one of the commenters says ,

" This contraption is examined in detail in chapter 30 of our book by Francis Marshall, 'Graf Zeppelin's Eagles' on the Bf 109T "

Real book ?

That really seems like an awful idea. I've seen others pose it was for creating smoke cover when the German cities were being bombed- that seems more likely to me than trying to use this to refuel. Hmm… maybe I will have to buy that book!

 

[urumomo]

That's what I would think .
Looks like crop dusting gear , so some kinda smoke thing ,,, sorta similar to those barrels on the Ju-88 I posted .
Some kinda defensive apparatus

 

[Jakko]

How bout these barrels ?

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[mcs1056]

Ok, though we did do that with our Beetles. Set it to run rich and added spark plugs to the tailpipe.

Flaming Death from Deutchland!

Of course…this was while cruising for chicks on Woodward as an Irishman in the 80s, so…

 

[Edbert]

we did do that with our Beetles. Set it to run rich and added spark plugs to the tailpipe.

We did it with 1960s Mustangs in the '80s too

 

[locomotive]

reverse image search gets you ,


True ?
one of the commenters says ,

" This contraption is examined in detail in chapter 30 of our book by Francis Marshall, 'Graf Zeppelin's Eagles' on the Bf 109T "

Real book ?

I find it unlikely they would use a completely different aircraft to test it. What would be the point? The rear mounting looks fixed also.
I would suggest that is for something other than refuelling. Defensive weapon. Smoke? As it seems connected to the engine.

 

[Rockin' Rob]

I find it unlikely they would use a completely different aircraft to test it. What would be the point? The rear mounting looks fixed also.
I would suggest that is for something other than refuelling. Defensive weapon. Smoke? As it seems connected to the engine.

That was their lame attempt at a supercharger. The only place to put the apparatus was in the tail and they had to plumb to the engine. Exactly like the P-47 Thunderbolt but on the outside.

 

[mcs1056]

They had just seen a James Bond movie. This was to lay out an oil slick, causing aircraft in trail to slide off the cliff.

 

[49thStateRT]

How bout these barrels ?

View attachment 179096

Pretty sure those are the experimental real rear firing cannons somebody thought maybe the experimental air to air refueling pipe was

 

[Rockin' Rob]

Pretty sure those are the experimental real rear firing cannons somebody thought maybe the experimental air to air refueling pipe was

When you're pulling out of a dive after firing on a ship you fire those cannons as you're pulling away from the ship

 

[urumomo]

they are flamethrowers for fighter defense

 

[Rockin' Rob]

they are flamethrowers for fighter defense

The man speaks truth. They were also a complete and utter failure