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THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 06:21:AM »
Hi all,

well as some of you know I'm diagnosed with relapsing depression. It's not quite as bad as manic-depressive, but still a bite to chew.
I can usually keep it in check nicely by listening carefully to my mind and body and taking enough time for myself. The creative hobbies do help a lot, but sometimes they can also be the initiator of another depressive phase.
This is usually heralded by a boost of creativity and a frenzy of building, drawing, sculpting and the like.

And then...

nothing

Just a blank mind, no initiative, no fun, no colors.

If I (or my family) catch the signals in time there are ways to hold the depression in check and get back to a normal behaviour.
If not, well that's the longer route out and in especially tough cases some medication is needed.

In March I slipped into another depressive phase, which wasn't heralded as clearly as usual and so we missed the signs. Luckily it wasn't a deep depression, but it "took the wind out of my sails".
At the time is was working on Allayah and her Fire-Lizards.


Unfortunately it was a lot of GreenStuff work, so I could only do a little at a time and then had to let it cure. This piecemeal work didn't really help me and so she gathered dust on my desk.
As so often I switched to computer games to keep me occupied.
Then a few weeks back I felt a first hobby twitch.
I looked at the air assault scene with the Hermes Air Assault (which I worked on last year in July last).


I started to do some improvements and reworked the scene, but it didn't really captivate me.

And then finally on July 8th the hobby urge was back!
With the help of my cats (this is Ben) I got to work on a new project.


Since I wasn't sure if I would get anywhere I did make photos, but I didn't post anything.
Now, 3 weeks later the project developed to a stage where I can share - and even if I should not finish it, it will hopefully entertain you and provide some inspiration and maybe some new ideas for you.
It is called THANATOS Atmospheric Assault Carrier :)


It's a pimped version of the HERMES - with some new ideas and twists.
We'll see how far I'll get.
I hope to have you with me on this little trip.
Cheers
Klaus
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #1 on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 06:22:AM »
as I've written in my previous post (http://fischers-design-shop.blogspot.de/2017/07/an-update.html)
this project started already on July 7th - but I simply wasn't sure if I could carry it through for any distance.
But now almost 3 weeks later I'm still at it and even if won't finish it, I think it can be entertaining and inspiring.
So here we go.

The THANATOS Atmospheric Assault Carrier is more or less a pimped version of the HERMES - a bit bigger with some improvements to it. If everything works out as planned it will be part of a diorama attack scene - if not, just a chunk of plastic gathering dust :D
But with the help of my cats it is great to be in the hobby again and be creative and get things done.

So here is Ben helping me with the Chopper.


I was cutting plastic tube pieces which are used as head-rests for these seats.


As you can see by the seats (7 per side compared to the 5 per side in the HERMES),


The THANATOS will be bigger.

With the 7 seats there is still room to spare.

And the isle between the seats is also comfortably wide - 2 abreast can easily fit.


Once I had the basic passenger bay outlined I started to build up the sides


and the ceiling.


The THANATOS will use a front ramp for quick entry and exit.

 
Since I want to detail some of the interior sections most pieces are not glued but rather taped together.

This is the passenger bay with the built-up sides.

Since the THANASOS is based on the HERMES, which in return is based on the PONOS (http://fischers-design-shop.blogspot.de/p/orkalypse-now.html) it also needs a superstructure for the cockpit and engine and weapons, and, and, and....


I'm using a Dream Forge Eisenkern trooper for scale.

The idea is that the first troopers disembarking will be heavy assault troops, followed by lighter storm trooper (Scions), followed by standard troopers (IG).

As you can see here I plan to have a clear window to the cockpit.

Not sure if I can pull this through to have visible interior, but hey why not plan big :-P

So the next decision was a turret on the top.
Here I have the possible candidates:
A PHRIKE turret (http://fischers-design-shop.blogspot.de/2016/05/a-meeting-of-scouts-8.html), an EPIALES turret (http://fischers-design-shop.blogspot.de/2016/03/rumble-in-rubble-6-and-finished.html), and a Vanquisher turret from the ZEUS (http://fischers-design-shop.blogspot.de/p/zeus.html)


The PHRIKE turret:


The ZEUS Vanquisher:


The EPIALES turret:

 
In the end I'm doing something new - as usual :)

Not sure if I will really make parts of the interior visible, but for right no I plan on doing so

Since I don't want to mess with ammunition I decided to go for a power weapon.
Like a Vulcano Cannon...


Could be sexy :)


With the gun in place I started to work up the turret armor.


This last image is from July 17 - so 10 days since the start of the project.


This concludes the first part of the built.
I'll simply amend ...
:)
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #2 on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 06:24:AM »
Well, here is the next part of the build process so far and it covers the steps from 17. July to 24. July.

I had to mix some GreenStuff for the end of the Volcano Cannon and some other pieces anyway, so I used the remainder to quickly shape the cushions for the seats.


While the GS cured I built the gunner position for the turret.


I think it's a nice amount of detail,


for the gunner


and the turret interior.


I also began detailing the turret roof, starting with the hatches.


This is how it would look on the THANATOS.


With the gunners position done I built the pilots positions.


From the taped area you can see that I plan to use HUD (Head Up Displays).


Not sure if it's going to be visible at all...


But I tried :D



With this part of the interior done, I decided to work on the outer engines.


They are pretty much what I already used for the HERMES - just a bit bigger.


In addition to the outer engines I need the landing gear. For this I cut the base first.


Then the pistons to it.


And the landing gear in position together with the outer engines.


This is as far as I got to July 24.


2 weeks of work :)


So what do you think?

Let me know and send some feedback, ideas and suggestions my way.
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #3 on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 06:25:AM »
THANATOS AAC (3)

Well, since the last update I added intake vents to the side engines.


As well as exhaust jets/grills


Finally I added two auto-cannons as well as hatches and maneuver flaps.


And this is how it will look in the diorama scene.


Courtney Hollyoake  at my blog commented on the width of the THANATOS

   
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With the troop compartment being quite wide, what about loading it up with some assault bikes or similar?

Well, I didn't want to reveal it yet, but yes, I plan to build a quad actually.
A quad, loaded with ammo and (dismantled) heavy weapons. Ready to come down the ramp :)

 
What I had not touched so far was the rear.

 
Typically the exhausts jets for the HERMES are round, but I think for this size flyer with VTOL capabilities I probably need something different.
So I go more for a spaceship (Ion?) engine...


Built with L-shaped profiles
 

Cool, eh?
 

 Not sure if any kind of rudder or flaps make sense - what do you think?


Another thing I wanted to try was paneling (as this gives tremendous opportunity for weathering)


I think this will work, don't you?


Next on the list were the two hatches with machine gun mount (the taped strip is just to support the mounts while curing)


Since the two hatches are in front of the cockpit window, I made them with a flat, sideways opening.

 
And they need machine guns too.


The 3 MG mounted.


 Then it was time to complete the paneling for that side.




And here is now an idea I was hiding so far:


If everything goes to plan, the THANATOS will sit in the diorama like this.


And while the troopers disembark and engage the enemy (Orks as usual)


 We can all take a look inside and see what is happening there.


Even though the one side engine would partially block the view


It would still allow a view of most of the action.

IF I can pull it through :D

And here are the individual sections of the THANATOS


 Oh, and I could also allow a glimpse at the gunner position here


 or keep it closed.


OK, here I am after 3 weeks of building.
What do you think?
Any suggestions? What about the maneuver flaps for the engines, or the paneling?
Thanks!
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #4 on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 06:27:AM »
Week 4 of the build

I completed the paneling of the left side of the THANATOS


For the interior details I built a "reactor" to power the ship.


And designed an engineering room for it.


It is removable for detailing and painting.


But it fits neatly into the section.


Even though much of it will be covered by the side engine, I feel better with this section in place



Another section I wasn't very pleased with was the rear section of the superstructure


So besides the top thruster I added some more panels


and I think this works better now.


To complete the interior details I still had to do the passenger bays ceiling.
You may be able to see that I added clear plastic card to the center allowing me the option to add LED lights if I should fancy it :)


Tie-downs and rails complete the interior here.


Another item on my to-do-list was the visible machine-gun position.
I opted for a blast door to the troop compartment and a vertically adjustable platform

 
But I can still close it seamlessly.

 
And finally I worked on the "bridge".
Any reputable bridge needs a captains chair, right?


Though pretty cramped this could work.


But a captain needs some displays to look at. Since the wall ahead is taken by an access door, I'm trying to add a display to the chair.


What do you think?
Will this work?


This is as far as I got.
Week 4 of the project.
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #5 on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 12:11:PM »

  Wow wow wow    :o

  I was wondering where Klaus has been    ,  but it's so quiet around here in the summer .
  I think maybe the guy is lounging in the South Pacific somewhere   8)
  Glad to have you back    ;D
  You return with an entire month-plus of production !

  I hope you display it with the sides open  . very cool .

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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #6 on: Thu Aug, 10, 2017, 09:52:PM »
Looking really good 

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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #7 on: Fri Aug, 11, 2017, 12:32:AM »
Watching this evolve is a joy, Klaus.
Glad to see you back at it.

Nice concept for the vehicle here
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #8 on: Fri Aug, 11, 2017, 06:08:AM »
Thank you guys!

Hi all,

well, this week's progress was rather slow.

One of the things I still need to solve with the planned "cut-open" diorama is the landing gear.
It looks good on the closed side,


but on the open side....


I could just leave the skids....


But I guess in the end I will just not have the landing gear on the open side.

Any ideas or suggestions?

From the plan and layout the scene will look like this.


With the Eisenkerns in the lead and the Scions following.


You may recall I mentioned a quad that I'd like to add as a ammo carrier and maybe even support vehicle.
Maybe like the US MV700 and MV850 quads



So I looked through my stash to find suitable wheels.


In the end I decided to use 1:48 T-34 road wheels, pimped with milliput.


Not the best wheels, but they'll do the job (I hope).


To be honest, I'm somehow operating completely in the dark when it comes to this quad. I took me forever to just get the simplest of starts.
In the end I used a motorcycle tank and saddle from a WWII German Z√ľndap


The build is very slow as I add and remove things time and again.


I think the basic rear is now OK


and it would fit into the THANATOS passenger bay.


It took me two evenings to get a half-way decent front.


I think I can live with that one...


Well, week 5 is almost over and compared to the previous weeks the build slowed considerably, but I hope once I'm past the basic quad design I can pick up pace again.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Cheers

Klaus
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #9 on: Fri Aug, 11, 2017, 11:26:PM »
Quad's coming along nicely, fits into the rest of things very well
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #10 on: Wed Aug, 16, 2017, 09:41:AM »
Hi all,

thank you for your feedback and suggestions.
Since the last update I created an "automatic grenade launcher" like the US M19 AGL.


And I mounted it on the back of the quad, together with a dynamically posed gunner.


 But then I had doubts and checked the height with the passenger bay...
Gee!
Too high!


I could pose it on the ramp
 

but sooner or later one of you would measure :)


So, back to the drawing board.


Instead of a quad, why not a Tauros based vehicle?


I also created a small gouge to ensure the proper height this time :)


First shapes.


Fenders


Putty for the body


At this point I realized the tires are kind of narrow.


So I started the widen them.


GreenStuff can be your saviour.


Body mostly completed.


But not much space left.


So a very low turret is needed.


Twin Automatic Grenade Launchers in a small automated turret, with fold-down antennae.


Tight fit :)


I still need to do some cleanup, but I think I'm about 90% done.

 

 

 



 
What do you think?


Anything still missing, some gross errors?
Thanks

Klaus
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #11 on: Wed Aug, 16, 2017, 11:37:PM »
I like it.
I also like that you worked to actually make it fit in the bay
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« Reply #12 on: Tue Aug, 22, 2017, 06:58:AM »
 :o truly inspiring work, I love it. Peza
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Re: THANATOS (40K) Atmospheric Assault Carrier - Scratch
« Reply #13 on: Tue Aug, 22, 2017, 12:04:PM »

Hi all,
thank you for your feedback and suggestions!
I really appreciate you participating :)

So I finished the Dencara Tauros, by adding camouflage netting and all the other little details.



 
I am quite pleased with the result.



 
And it fits into the passenger bay.


hehe :)



Well, this ain't old-fashioned programming, this is rivet making.

 
While recovering from rivet making I started to figure out the actual scene.
Here you can see where I envision the light to spill....

 
Hmm, maybe a round base?

 
While tinkering with these ideas (and it was at night, so I couldn't use the saw) I continued with details.
Like creating the lights and sights for the turret.

 
The next day I cut half of the wooden plate rectangular and the other half to a circle - so I still have the option to select either.
Then I positioned the troopers

 
After the initial positioning I decided I need an officer leading - this is an interesting mix of Eisenkern Valkir and Imperial Scion parts - and honestly, I love how the guy turned out!

 
I also added a flame trooper - for the sheer effect of a flame thrower at night :D

 
And another heavy Eisenkern with a "big gun".

 
So, please take a look at the composition.

Is it too static, would you position differently?
What are your thoughts here?

Right now I'm going with the idea of the round base and started to cover it in instant plaster.

 
And positioned the ship on it (also to leave impression marks on the ground).

 
And this is where I am now.
Please let me know what you think.
I look forward to your feedback!
Cheers
Klaus
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« Reply #14 on: Tue Aug, 22, 2017, 11:30:PM »
 ;D  Awesome

 Too static ?   -- Definitely not