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Bandai Star Wars kits and solvents.
« on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 06:47:PM »
So, I have a few of the Bandai Star Wars kits. I know their kits tend to do weird things when you weather with enamels.

I was just wondering if anyone has ever primed a Bandai kit with a lacquer based primer like Krylon or Alclad. Presumably if that doesn't destroy the plastic than using enamel and oil for weathering would be okay once the lacquer primer is down…
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Re: Bandai Star Wars kits and solvents.
« Reply #1 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 06:55:PM »

  I've never seen any weakness / difference in Bandai styrene   .     ???

     I don't use lacquer paints   ---  I use the chit out of Tamiya white which is lacquer based and it had no different , destructive interaction with Bandai plastic . 

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« Reply #2 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 08:03:PM »

  I've never seen any weakness / difference in Bandai styrene   .     ???

     I don't use lacquer paints   ---  I use the chit out of Tamiya white which is lacquer based and it had no different , destructive interaction with Bandai plastic .

I think the main problem comes from Bandai kits using ABS and polyvinyl plastics. Which don't take solvents well.

But I've also heard they treat their polystyrene differently and it can crack. I think there's a few AT-ST threads on here about it as well.


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« Reply #3 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 08:15:PM »

  Ah  ,  interesting .
     I have pretty minimal experience with Bandai   .

     Eager to hear more

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« Reply #4 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 08:34:PM »
I also have limited experience. I've just seen it brought up in various threads.


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Re: Bandai Star Wars kits and solvents.
« Reply #5 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 10:50:PM »
The only one I saw was Phil Flory's AT-ST. Built, painted, and when he went to weather it using enamels, the enamel weathering solutions broke down the parts. No matter what you paint with it, that stuff will go everywhere and get into joints that the paint hasn't touched.

I have had the same thing happen with joints glued with Tamiya X-thin, the enamel weathering solutions would debond the tamiya glue. Was working on an 8 wheel vehicle, holding it by the inside half of the wheels as I spread the enamel solutions around, much to my amazement, the entire suspension system came out and the rest of the vehicle went tumbling.

Now I use nothing but acrylics.

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« Reply #6 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 11:23:PM »
I tend not to use enamels, except very sparingly. And then, I only use enamel paints.
All of my weathering is done with acrylics
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« Reply #7 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 11:24:PM »
The only one I saw was Phil Flory's AT-ST. Built, painted, and when he went to weather it using enamels, the enamel weathering solutions broke down the parts. No matter what you paint with it, that stuff will go everywhere and get into joints that the paint hasn't touched.

I have had the same thing happen with joints glued with Tamiya X-thin, the enamel weathering solutions would debond the tamiya glue. Was working on an 8 wheel vehicle, holding it by the inside half of the wheels as I spread the enamel solutions around, much to my amazement, the entire suspension system came out and the rest of the vehicle went tumbling.

Now I use nothing but acrylics.

That's crazy. Never had that problem with Tamiya Extra Thin. Doctor Faust's Painting Clinic on YouTube had that problem. A little bit of AK Interactive and the plastic started breaking down.

I guess I'll be extra careful with the Bandai kits.


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Re: Bandai Star Wars kits and solvents.
« Reply #8 on: Mon Mar, 13, 2017, 11:27:PM »
I tend not to use enamels, except very sparingly. And then, I only use enamel paints.
All of my weathering is done with acrylics

I feel like I should switch if for no other reason than solvents are super unhealthy. I've replaced most of my paints with Mission Model Paints. Finally found a good acrylic primer. But I still use oil for weathering. And I'm forever a sucker for Alclad.


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Re: Bandai Star Wars kits and solvents.
« Reply #9 on: Mon Mar, 20, 2017, 03:12:AM »
Sorry I am late to the party.....

I use Alclad primers on Bandai plastic all the time and I have had no problems with it interacting with the plastic.  In fact it will even stick to their polycaps and not flake off.  Once the primer is down I use what ever paint I want on it.

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« Reply #10 on: Mon Mar, 20, 2017, 08:30:AM »
Brilliant. Thanks. I guess if I'm worried I can just spray some sprue first…

Sorry I am late to the party.....

I use Alclad primers on Bandai plastic all the time and I have had no problems with it interacting with the plastic.  In fact it will even stick to their polycaps and not flake off.  Once the primer is down I use what ever paint I want on it.


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Re: Bandai Star Wars kits and solvents.
« Reply #11 on: Tue Mar, 21, 2017, 11:18:AM »
Sorry I am late to the party.....

I use Alclad primers on Bandai plastic all the time and I have had no problems with it interacting with the plastic.  In fact it will even stick to their polycaps and not flake off.  Once the primer is down I use what ever paint I want on it.

Most of the problems I have seen don't involve the paint, but when someone uses an enamel wash and slathers it on to heavy. It ends up running into the joints and dissolves the polycaps.

I don't think that if you used it sparingly, that you would have much, if any problems.

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« Reply #12 on: Tue Mar, 21, 2017, 06:39:PM »
Good point. I've never been one to flood a surface with wash. But I'll keep an eye on it.

Sorry I am late to the party.....

I use Alclad primers on Bandai plastic all the time and I have had no problems with it interacting with the plastic.  In fact it will even stick to their polycaps and not flake off.  Once the primer is down I use what ever paint I want on it.

Most of the problems I have seen don't involve the paint, but when someone uses an enamel wash and slathers it on to heavy. It ends up running into the joints and dissolves the polycaps.

I don't think that if you used it sparingly, that you would have much, if any problems.



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